The Gathering
I got back late last night from Dublin where Steorn presented their long-promised 'proof' to the world.
I am often asked which side of the fence I stand. Over the past 3 years, despite the failed London demo and numerous disappointments, I trusted my instincts, believing that the company had what they claimed, but Steorn's appointed jury slapped my face and hurled me into the sceptics' camp.
[I cannot wait to find out what happened behind the scenes but I'm willing to believe that both sides had their own agendas and problems and I would not be surprised if both were complicit. Perhaps - given that jury members are declared sceptics - they did not believe a word Sean said from the get-go and would analyse nothing until they saw some compelling evidence with their own eyes. I think that's reasonable and when it did not happen, the whole thing fell apart].
I have no inside knowledge on this but, no matter the truth of it, I put great faith in the scientific method and will not dismiss their negative verdict lightly. For this reason, I will only 'believe' when I have a device in my hand or multiple and repeatable replications are made by non-Steorn parties.
That said, I believe that Sean and Steorn are genuine. I believe that they are capable and that their work is informed and diligent. I believe that Saturday's demo did show over-unity and I believe that when Sean says it was not rigged that he was telling the truth.
There is now a great sense of openness between Steorn and SKDB members. Most questions asked are answered freely. They appear to have a clearer idea how to nurture independent replication from a bunch of far-flung builders and show a determination to use the SKDB to foster and support a thriving developers' community. I believe too, that the price of entry is trivial for anyone with a genuine interest in what is offered and I believe that all of this points to the fact that they have what they claim to have. I am still determined to hold on to caution and so I will not be truly convinced until the stain of the jury's negative verdict is expunged by an independent's spinning Orbo.
To anyone wondering if they should join the SKDB, I say that if you can afford the entry fee, it's worth every cent. The risk is petty and the possible rewards huge. Given its potential impact, Orbo technology is relatively simple to grasp. Harvesting small amounts of energy from each rotation is only possible with precise engineering and attention to fine tuning the various parameters involved. For that reason, building such a machine is neither trivial or beyond the ken of determined and talented amateurs. If this dream turns out to be true, developers will flood in once it becomes irrefutable. Before then, the field is open, IP is waiting to be designed and harvested, fame and fortune and a cleaner, better world, begging to be had.
To-date, I have spent thousands of dollars I do not have in following this enigma (flights, hotels and ancillary costs). I expect to make nothing, but the intellectual capital is priceless, the story a true wonder and the people - Steorn and SKDB members - a joy to know.
I realise that it sounds as though I believe, but the truth is, it's unimportant whether I do or not. My caution is by design, my hope for us all is unbounded.
I am often asked which side of the fence I stand. Over the past 3 years, despite the failed London demo and numerous disappointments, I trusted my instincts, believing that the company had what they claimed, but Steorn's appointed jury slapped my face and hurled me into the sceptics' camp.
[I cannot wait to find out what happened behind the scenes but I'm willing to believe that both sides had their own agendas and problems and I would not be surprised if both were complicit. Perhaps - given that jury members are declared sceptics - they did not believe a word Sean said from the get-go and would analyse nothing until they saw some compelling evidence with their own eyes. I think that's reasonable and when it did not happen, the whole thing fell apart].
I have no inside knowledge on this but, no matter the truth of it, I put great faith in the scientific method and will not dismiss their negative verdict lightly. For this reason, I will only 'believe' when I have a device in my hand or multiple and repeatable replications are made by non-Steorn parties.
That said, I believe that Sean and Steorn are genuine. I believe that they are capable and that their work is informed and diligent. I believe that Saturday's demo did show over-unity and I believe that when Sean says it was not rigged that he was telling the truth.
There is now a great sense of openness between Steorn and SKDB members. Most questions asked are answered freely. They appear to have a clearer idea how to nurture independent replication from a bunch of far-flung builders and show a determination to use the SKDB to foster and support a thriving developers' community. I believe too, that the price of entry is trivial for anyone with a genuine interest in what is offered and I believe that all of this points to the fact that they have what they claim to have. I am still determined to hold on to caution and so I will not be truly convinced until the stain of the jury's negative verdict is expunged by an independent's spinning Orbo.
To anyone wondering if they should join the SKDB, I say that if you can afford the entry fee, it's worth every cent. The risk is petty and the possible rewards huge. Given its potential impact, Orbo technology is relatively simple to grasp. Harvesting small amounts of energy from each rotation is only possible with precise engineering and attention to fine tuning the various parameters involved. For that reason, building such a machine is neither trivial or beyond the ken of determined and talented amateurs. If this dream turns out to be true, developers will flood in once it becomes irrefutable. Before then, the field is open, IP is waiting to be designed and harvested, fame and fortune and a cleaner, better world, begging to be had.
To-date, I have spent thousands of dollars I do not have in following this enigma (flights, hotels and ancillary costs). I expect to make nothing, but the intellectual capital is priceless, the story a true wonder and the people - Steorn and SKDB members - a joy to know.
I realise that it sounds as though I believe, but the truth is, it's unimportant whether I do or not. My caution is by design, my hope for us all is unbounded.
posted by Paul Story at
17:12
11 Comments:
I don't know how you can possibly believe that their demo showed over-unity. They did not present a single useful quantifiable figure. Why don't they take screen captures of the CRO measurements, and post them online along with the settings and the circuit connections. That would at least let us engineers say "Yes - if these measurements are correct there is over unity". Instead they showed nothing.
P.S.:
"...For this reason, I will only 'believe' when I have a device in my hand or multiple and repeatable replications are made by non-Steorn parties.
...I believe that Saturday's demo did show over-unity and I believe that when Sean says it was not rigged that he was telling the truth."
If that's not a textbook example of double speak, then I don't know what is.:-)
:-) So, Mr. P.S., which of them would it be? Or you haven't made up your mind yet?
Hi Anon,
The 'doublespeak' is deliberate and reflects my stance perfectly. I believe them and what they say and yet will not believe 'it' until I prove it to my satisfaction.
The reason I believe that they showed overunity is because I was there and could ask specific questions of Sean and others afterwards and also because of the above statement. The data from the experiment will be posted soon and engineers can then decide for themselves.
It comes down to this...
What we saw was overunity or Sean and Co deliberately rigged the demo. If someone believes it was rigged they should not join the SKDB. Steorn has now taken a stance. It appears that they will no longer fight their corner in public. It is a pointless exercise.
On this blog, I am merely stating my opinion. I will not fight their corner either. I fully understand why you might find my stance puzzling. No problem, but that's where I stand.
Paul, nice write up.
Was good to meet you over the weekend and I said I would check out your blog.
Cheers
SH
Hi S,
Thanks for that. Great seeing you both at the weekend. Perfect example of what I refer to in this post. Guess the dining table is a little cluttered at the moment!
Hi Paul !
Thanks for your new blog-entry on this.:-)
It´s been a pleasure to meet you in Dublin.
Kai
My pleasure, indeed, Kai. Look forward to the next time.
Are you willing to warrant what you promote? Or are you just a despicable shill for scam artists?
lol!
At least Steorn have created expectations by promising calorimetry results, giving the skb the final bits of information needed to create an orbo, and by enrolling commercial firms in the skb.
If there aren't replications in the next month or so, and there aren't calorimetry results soon, we will have good reason to become disgruntled.
Couldbe
What happened to a well-educated skecptic (like Dr. Mike, I think that was his name, you conducted an interview with him on this blog) testing the new Orbo ? Is he still interested ? What about a new interview ?
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