Why did it fail?
Sean claims that the device is simple to build. This confidence led him to inject hurdles that added to the risk of failure. These include:
- Using polycarbonate materials to afford transparency
- Fitting simple ceramic watch bearings to keep opaque elements small
- Concentrating on the artful look over function and reliability
- Settling for a low-torque configuration
- Placing the exhibit in a greenhouse with hot lights focused on it
- Using an untested system (ie poly-built – not the configuration itself)
- Seat-of-the-pants flying
- Insufficient time to recover from inevitable problems
- No fall-back plan
To conclude, as some people have, that the Orbo is real but fragile, is a leap too far for me. I would find it easier to believe that the device did not exist in the first place and I am not ready to jump to that conclusion either.
Up until now, I figured that the delays and obfuscation were down to giving Steorn time to squeeze the last patent improvements into the system. This conforms to the observation that the continuous motion technology is just off the drawing board. On Friday, I asked Sean if they were now fully patent-protected. He was unequivocal in his answer – yes. Taken together with the demo train-wreck and his display of sincerity regarding a change of approach, I can only pray that we will not have to wait a year for the jury to report. That may have made some sort of sense last month, but the landscape has changed and it no longer does.
posted by Paul Story at
18:12
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You must admit Paul this whole thing is getting silly. People are now making up excuses as to why the demo failed - rather than looking at the truth. The whole reference to "sean" is also telling - it demonstrates the a kind of "I am your buddy you can trust me" attitude. The truth is that with 10 million euros in the bank and six months to perfect his technology, Mr. McCarthy could not put together a plastic wheel than spun based on his technologly. He could organise a slick website, great cameras, nice posters, a central London location, but not the actual technology - and a week afterwards still nothing. We were told the demo would lift weights, yet what we got was a small wheel that could not turn itself. You should watch his appearance afterwards. The "broken" demo unit was defined by Mr. McCarthy as broken because when it was spun at 100 RPM it took 20 seconds to come to a halt, rather than the two minutes he required. But even 20 seconds, count it slowly, indicates very little friction. Are we to seriously to believe that his powerful new force that was going to change the world could not turn a small wheel with such little friction. Please it is embarrassing that someone as obviously intelligent and well-read as you are is making excuses for a guy who deluded all of us. The world really has become a strange place - all you need is money and charm and people will follow you ot the ends of the earth.
Hi Anthony,
I am not attempting to make excuses for Steorn. I am neither their mouthpiece, their puppet, nor their gullible stooge. I am simply trying to put into words, with as little emotion as possible, my interpretation of what might have gone wrong. This includes the statement that they may never have had a device in the first place.
I hear what you say about people falling for the 'buddy' Sean routine. I fully admit that I like the guy and he comes across as sincere and honest. I also know that I cannot trust my own instincts on that subject which is why I now wait for corroboration. There is more than Sean's word to go on here and, whether you believe it or not, there is some compelling circumstantial evidence that backs Steorn's claim. It does not add up to a slam dunk but provides me with enough substance to keep me hopeful no matter how black it looks.
In the end, it is costing us nothing to wait and see.
"compelling circumstantial evidence"...where? Have I missed something. There is nothing. I dont think you are a stooge, just someone who invested in this personally and is reticent to let it go.
Most Steorn watchers are engaging in the same pseudo-rationalisation to save face. They try to look indepedent by criticising "sean" and rapping his knuckles for nor preparing for the demo but then on the other hand saying "look we all know demos go wrong...lets give him time, but I ams still very angry with him". It is just an attempt to look reasoned and balanced by people who have been taken in by a very charasmatic personality. But it is a farce..Let me pose a question to all the Steorn fans out there. What has to happen for you not to belive Mr. McCarthy has this technology or ever had it. I will give you a few choices (a) The public demo does not happen by Christmas because of....insert excuses here(b) Mr.McCarthy leaves Steorn and says he is setting up on his own because Steorn doesnt belive in him anymore (c) the jury of experts breaks down because the scientists refuse to be invovled with it any more due to embarassment and the risk of professional humiliation(d) jury comes back and says there is nothing there whatsoever.
The fact that a failed demo, silly excuses and no video evidence has ever been produced would lead any rationale person to realise Orbo is all in Mr. Mcarthy`s Mindo. But pick a,b,c,d? My bet is all Steron fans will go for D because it will drag this thing out as long as possible. Anyway, take care. I dont think you are guillible, just human and you want a return on your emotional investment.
Speaking only for myself, I agree with you that there is some reluctance to let go after all the emotional and intellectual capital invested in Steorn. Having said that, and taking into account the London disaster, whatever is going on here is still fascinating and well worth the time I spend on it. It is unimportant whether you believe me or not (I don't blame you either way) but I do have information that I can't talk about that adds a dimension to the mystery that is hard to resolve if the Steorn Effect is all BS.
Hi, Paul,
I am another SPDC member. So far it seems you are the only person that figured out what really happened on kinetica. Sean "obscured" the truth in 3 p.m. meeting, may be because of fear of revealing too much info about orbo or some other reason. But he did reveal a lot of info so far (including during kinetica demo and before - especially discussing viscosity lag timing). I think that the "deedee" comments on overunity.com are very close to the way orbo really works. They are so close I'm actually considering the possibility of "deedee" being steorn employee/jury member/insider. So far it seems most of the people were thinking about lag effect when ENTERING magnetic interaction, which is not very usefull and it seems it is more of a obstacle then help (i.e. energy loss mechanism), but the lag in saturation decay when small magnet is EXITING interaction with magnetic field created by a strong magnet is what is really interesting and usefull. You can easily arrange design in which small magnet enters interaction with next "wave" of magnetic field created by strong magnets before the lag is over and get energy gain. Unexpected outcome of steorn story, isn't it ? It is really fascinating how in today's world of abundant information available on the internet one guy sitting in startbucks-like coffee shop next to a beautiful church in sofia can post a few sentences revealing the design of an earth-changing technology to a blog of a person he likes on the other end of the world. Btw, I met you in SPDC and steorn forum and I really like the way you think - open and optimistic but rational. Cheers :)) Oh, and, btw, read carefully what is now on www.kinetica-museum.com. I hope Steorn will not be afraid of public Orbo disclosure to the extent of completely canceling the demo ...
You make good points, and true it is all very interesting; but for different reasons for different people. Being in the "disciples" group you are of course given "secret information" that you cannot talk about. But I suspect it is just numbers, measurements, and or testimonials from someone who is very important. But neither you, nor anyone you personaly know has ever seen the machine running. No one. In fact in Steorn, as far as I know, there is only 1, maybe 2, people who have claim to have seen a machine running.
It is all very religious - there are interesting parallels to Jesus here. The chosen few, the charasmatic figure, doubting Thomas etc. If any really interesting information was had by the SPDC it would have been leaked on the internet a long time ago. I know all the secrets of the Freemasons and I am not one - and their social binding is presumably much tighter that SPDC. I will leave now but drop back now and again to the various forums to have a look. If this was Hollywood then Mr.McCarthy would confound all the sceptics and some time soon would produce his machine. He would be hailed by the world as a genius and the SPDC as true believers and visonaries for sticking with him. But this aint Hollywood, this is the real world. And Steorn and Sean will fade away in a messy, tangled legal quagmire over the next six to twleve months. Few will know anything for certain and the jury result will be forgone or ambigious or not published. And to cap it all the Orbo machine will remain unproven but still possible in the minds of some.
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